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Christianity.com claims that Benny Hinn's
prophecies are false or failed prophecies?
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Here is excerpts of christianity.com forum:
Earthless (Moderator): (taken
from christianity.com P - 24-26 Benny Hinn Fans....)
P-25, 26:
Benny Hinn has spoken false/failed prophecy after prophecy.
P-25: For
the Bible is clear in Deutronomy 18 that one failed/false
prophecy spoken makes the speaker a false prophet.
P-20
On a much simpler note, the Bible is clear that one false
prophecy spoken makes the speaker a false prophet and that
God will bring justice to them for speaking lies on His behalf.
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(Visitor to christianity.com)
P-26:
God's promise to Moses and Israelites to take them to
the promised land failed when they sinned. Those who came
out of Israel died in the wilderness including Moses.
Jonah spoke (preached) that within
40 days Nineveh would be overthrown. It did not happen according
to the word of Jonah, the reason people repented from their
sins and turned to God.
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Note: The
prophecies of Moses and Jonah's failed. So are you (Christianity.com)
thinking that Moses and Jonah are also false prophets. Because
according to your (christianity.com's) logic "if one
prophecy fails or turns to false" the person must be
False Prophets? right?
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RebbecaGMW (Ans from another
visitor) p-26-
The above examples were examples of promises kept, not failed
prophecies.
Bygraceiamsaved (Veteran):
The things you listed were not prophecies, but Jonah's own
private feelings. I think you had better rethink your arguments
as they are not true renderings of the passages given.
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Note:
I don't know how can you call it as promise? Can you call
it as a promise that after 40 days whole city will be destroyed?
Strange!! Isn't it?)
Jonah had private feelings so he went to Tarshish instead
of Nineveh? Right? Funny! Very Funny! One person is saying
that it was a promise the other one is saying it was a private
feeling. God's word clearly says that "word of God came
to Jonah". Jonah 3:1 Now the word of the LORD came to
Jonah the second time, saying......"
So it was not a promise or private feeling but word of God
i.e. Prophecy came to Jonah that after 40 days Nineveh would
be overthrown. When you do not have a proper Bible knowledge
you can call anybody false prophet.
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Earthless (Moderator):
It is becoming evident that you
do not know what the definition of 'prophecy' is. Prophecy
is an individual claiming that the words they are about to
utter are not their own, but of the Lord God Himself speaking.
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Note: According
to above post you can say that what Jonah got is prophecy.
Because he heard from God.
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Earthless (Moderator):
p-25
What failed prophecy(ies) did
Moses or Jonah speak? Can you please share the passages for
them.
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(Visitor to christianity.com)
Here who spoke to Jonah? What do you understand by "word
of the Lord came to Jonah"? Is it a promise or private
feeling? It is very strange. Here is the whole conversation
between God and Jonah:
Jonah 3:1 Now the word of the
LORD came to Jonah the second time, saying,
Jonah 3:2 "Arise, go to Nineveh, that great city, and
preach to it the message that I tell you."
Jonah 3:3 So Jonah arose and went to Nineveh, according to
the word of the LORD. Now Nineveh was an exceedingly great
city, a three-day journey in extent.
Jonah 3:4 And Jonah began to enter the city on the first day's
walk. Then he cried out and said, "Yet forty days, and
Nineveh shall be overthrown!"
You can clearly see that "Word of God
came to Jonah" it was prophecy not Johah's intention
to go to Nineveh.
If you read the very first verse you
can see the same thing:
Jonah 1:1 Now the word of the LORD came to Jonah the son of
Amittai, saying,
Jonah 1:2 "Arise, go to Nineveh, that great city, and
cry out against it; for their wickedness has come up before
Me."
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RebbecaGMW (Ans from another
visitor) -
Is it prophecy? According to how
you are interpreting the idea of prophecy? No. I hesitate
to tell you that it was prophecy because of your interpretation
of the word "prophecy". ......
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p-26 (Visitor to christianity.com)
Then which ones are prophecies according to you? Is there
any prophecy in the Bible or just opinions of people like
Moses, Jonah and Isaiah? I have given you clear proof that
their prophecies failed yet they were TRUE Prophets of God.
Prophecies do not fulfill as you think or as you wish.
Isaiah spoke about Hezekiah in 2 Ki
20:1 In those days Hezekiah was sick and near death. And Isaiah
the prophet, the son of Amoz, went to him and said to him,
"Thus says the LORD: 'Set your house in order, for you
shall die, and not live.'"
You can see that it is SPECIFIC prophecy
that Hezekiah is going to die and WILL NOT LIVE. And it was
spoken with the AUTHORITY of "THUS SAYS THE LORD."
But we all know that Hezekiah did not DIE
but LIVED 15 more years. FAILED PROPHECY period.
Like wise Jonah spoke SPECIFIC PROPHECY that
"in FORTY DAYS Nineveh would be overthrown." DID
NOT HAPPEN IN FORTY DAYS.. AGAIN FAILED PROPHECY PERIOD
This is exactly how you interpret Benny
Hinn's prophecy. Don't apply double standards. You convienently
dodged the question if Isaiah's prophecy SPECIFICLY mentioned
in 2 Ki 20:1. Was it a prophecy or not? I had asked answer
in yes or no.
There is difference between FALSE prophecy
and FAILED prophecy. TRUE Prophecies can fail (1 Cor 13:8
Love never fails. But whether there are prophecies, they will
fail;)
A prophecy has failed that does not mean
that prophecy is FALSE. But the mark of a FALSE prophecy is
that it will CONTRADICT the WORD OF GOD. Prophecies change
because God in His sovereign will and in His great mercies
allows a person's petition or because people sin and God being
a just God cannot grant the things He had promised.
Prophecies of Benny Hinn are not false. You
will know that if you have the Bible knowledge. If you eat
food prepared by someone else you will never know how it was
prepared. Same way unless you read your Bible yourself and
ask God to help you understand, you cannot understand.
The greatest problem of this forum
is that none of you know your Bible. Unless you know what
is in the Bible, you cannot understand anything else. You
people are groping in the dark. God has not kept us in dark
but gave His Holy Spirit to understand which is correct and
which is not.
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Note: Finally christianity.com forum's
moderators could not answer these questions whether prophecy
of Jonah, Isaiah, Moses was failed propheices or not? They
just skipped the topic and jumped to another topic like monky
on tree. Not only that they banned the above visitor when
they had no answers for failed prophecies of Jonah and so
on.
Prophecies could look like failed/false prophecy because there
are many reasons for it.
1. According to Bible prophecies have it's own time of fulfilment.
Joshep saw dream but it took almost 14 years for this dream
to come to pass. Abraham got prophecy that Sara will bear
a child for him. This prophecy came to him when he was 75
years old. But it was fulfilled when Abraham was 100 years
old. So delay does not mean that prophecies are false. If
today you get some prophecy it does not mean that tomorrow
it should fulfil. Prophecies have it's own time for fulfilment.
2. Prophecies does not fulfill as a human mind thinks about
it.
Many times we even may not understand the real meaning of
prophecies. Ex: Jesus spoke to His disciples, "One of
you would betray me". But none of them could understand
what that meant. The same way till prophecy come to pass you
may never know what it was. Sometimes it surprises us that
the way we interpret or think with our human intellect that
certain prophecies would fulfill in a perticular way, but
it does not. So you cannot call that those prophecies are
false or failed one. If you do not have experience of prophecies
you can never understand these things.
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